Moments like this are rare and far in-between, whereas you search on Ranked Match online for Tekken Tag Tournament 2, and you are properly paired up with someone who is at your same rank and level.
Note: Somehow Aris found a way that works for him online... (Laughs)
Namco did a patch when the first set of DLC characters were released (Slim Bob, Miharu, and Sebastian) last month and it added the option to search for people 2 ranks above or below your current rank. This helped the problem somewhat, but it's VERY annoying to be matched up against the same guy with 3k wins and less than 50 losses about 6-10 times in one 2 hour session. From that alone, I dropped from Disciple rank to 2nd Dan in the span of a few hours, only to work my way back up to Disciple after sheer annoyance at this.
"I truly believe that there should be a change in how you connect to players in ranked matches. They should not match you up by your character ranking but by the person's win percentage. I just earned my discple ranking for the first time and had it immediately taken away by losing 3 in arow. Because the people i played had over 700 wins and less than 200 loses but since they think there soooo good they can use half the characters and play lower ranked people and get more wins. If they did it that way then the people who know how to play well will still be on top and players like me in the 30-40% can improve and soon our win percentage will increase and we move on to better opponents. Then the people who have ahard time can contine to play others without getting crused by a good player with a low character ranking but a high win percentage. Because when you get destroyed in tekken its very discouraging. But that just my suggestion. Hopefully will be a way to match people up in later tekken games." -- via World Tekken Federation Forums
I agree here 100%. From how it stands, it makes no sense whatsoever on some the end results of matchmaking. I'm sure the common smart ass/knee jerk reaction is simply to just man up and take the losses like a trooper and bounce back from more practice, but there's no excuse for a bowl of shit that is this game's so-called matchmaking that is supposedly pairing players up deemed on player skill. News flash people, the shit is broken and Namco needs to fix it. If they can own up to Arcade Mode being too hard or taking the time to extract a microscopic religious symbol from the background of one of the DLC stages, then they can take a few minutes to take care of this if they expect people to invest into this game for the long haul.
All I ask is a simple patch to add a more in-depth filter. Search for Ranked Matches at your same level for players like myself who rather be paired with players at their own ranges of skill. If I'm in a mood for a challenge, I'll switch over to World Arena and make a few open challenges but other than that, I rather play some decent, yet fair matches on Ranked to help benefit myself and my team rankings. Or hell, allow all online matches contribute points to your team's level and rank. If that was the case, I wouldn't play Ranked EVER. A complete breakdown of how Promotion Chances would be nice too and/or an indicator of how close you are to reaching the next rank. It's pretty discouraging to defeat several players ranked above you, but you don't get not one Promotion Chance but the second someone lower and/or at your same rank defeats you (no matter how many wins prior), you find yourself in a Demotion Match.
As a result of my personal frustration on how this game's Ranked Matchmaking is constructed, I have dedicated more of my practice time offline in Ghost Battle and Practice Modes when I'm not playing friends offline in Versus, rather than online, as it's obvious I can't use Ranked as a means to experiment and my own personal basis of trial and error. My teammates would prolly get pissed at me in the long haul, but in all honesty, as it stands of today (11/29/12) I STILL have more points contributed to the team than all of them combined.
UPDATE (1/23/14) Since I notice that there are still individuals debating this matter in the comments, I figured I would share Aris' ongoing rage as he personally deals with Ranked Match.
After Namco-Bandai killed support for the World Tekken Federation service, it's sad to see this game's netcode go to absolute shit.
why hasnt anyone commented on this yet? holy shit my thoughts exactly. I use king and a.king, and havent really played tekken since ttt1, back when gamers still had integrity and honor, not just a desire to get the highest win ratio, no matter how cheap they have to be. Ive been playing tekken for 17 years, yet i still get my ass handed to me because everyone uses jun, asuka, jin, or law, who are all incredibly easy to use. I mean seriously just sit on the controller with those chars, and you will dominate. So i spent countless hours learning every intricacy of king and a.king (which takes a lot of time effort and skill) and i get smushed by assholes who spam kazama moves over and over again, who might have my same character rank, but they have won 128337 matches to my 28....how the fuck can i rank up? this is fucking bullshit. ive been playing tekken for almost 15 years. I have over 1000 ranked matches and im still a disciple...made it to master but then was promptly demoted by pros who had no reason to be matched up with me when my record is on the line. Fix this shit, im tired of being a skilled player who doesnt like to use cheap-ass bullshit characters (jin,kazuya, asuka, jun, unknown, bobs, laws, paul, lili AND THATS ALL ANYONE FUCKING USES NOONE HAS INTEGRITY ANYMORE, TEKKEN HAS BECOME COD)and ends up paying for it. Namco and fucking cheap ass pussy kazama playing mishima using, cod ratio minded assholes...you have officially ruined my favorite game. Tekken 3 FTW.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad to see I'm not alone in my distaste for Ranked Match. I personally main Dragunov/Alisa and constantly get hatemail for that team, while I have JayCee, Miharu, King, and MAYBE Kunimitsu on the back burner.
ReplyDeleteI will express my enjoyment out of Player Match though. I have switched over to playing that mode exclusively when I do play online and those matches had far better connections, variety of player skill, and diverse selection of opponents. I HIGHLY suggest giving that a try over Ranked Match. As it stands, I could care less about my Ranking and Team affiliation.
*High Fives on the Tekken 3 love*
Anon, I've seen people play cheap with every character. As a Bob/Yoshimitsu, I'm a little pissed about your statement. Don't get me wrong, nothing makes me madder than loosing to a spammer but you can only base a players' cheapness by the way he plays, NOT by his character. Granted there are some tiers that are higher than others, but the point is to play with a character that feels comfortable and enjoyable. You listed so many characters as "cheap-ass bullshit" that it seems it's just an issue of skill level. As for the article, you lost me when you complained about how Arcade Mode was too hard. The difficulty can be adjusted to a painfully easy mode. I see your point though, ranked matches don't actually pair you up with your skill level, but if people are consistently better than you at a certain rank then hell, maybe you aren't ready for that rank. If the guy keeps popping up, switch to Friendly. It's not like this issue is TTT2 exclusive. It's in every fighting game.
ReplyDeleteFair enough point. I understand your distaste for me saying that Arcade Mode being too hard, but I was reviewing the game towards the audience that's not too savvy on fighters and wished to play the game on its default settings. So it's a bit understandable that Arcade Mode is a bit too hard for newcomers - granted there's an option to make it "painfully" easy as you stated.
ReplyDeleteRegardless, I appreciate the feedback though and hope that you continue to enjoy the content here.
Great post
ReplyDeleteYou people are ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteStudy the game. There are punishers for spam moves, evade using side-step, counter attacks with faster framed moves, and backdash to make them whiff.
Tekken requires skill, a lot of practice, and a lot of game knowledge.
But I do understand since it's online, it has somewhat a delay. Even if it's +5 connection, you still have to anticipate.
But tekken isn't about button-smashing. It's a balanced game, except for fucking lars' down+back+triangle, square. It's safe and spammable, it's mid high and very irritating. but thank god they took away the tracking in ttt2. You could duck the second hit, but wtf, it's online.
I think that Tag 2 rank is an absolute waste of time. I was doing fine with Steve and Feng until I got paired up against the same people and got extremely angry and then it made me give up, and I don't regret that at all. People like them should be reported for the way they play. Honestly they must introduce a punishment of some sort...
ReplyDeleteI literally give up with tekken tag to be fair its a pile of s**t u get demoted for winning battles u get demoted for losing its a crappy cheaply made game filled with flaws I mean demoted for winning thats a step to far
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